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  • #78283
    Anonymous
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    HI there
    Do you include ward clerk healthcare worker group in your Bare Below the Elbow audits?
    Regards

    Cate Coffey
    RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing
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    #78312
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    Yes! All staff that go onto the wards. How can they do proper hand hygiene otherwise?

    Kind regards,
    Kelly
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    Kelly Barton
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    HI there
    Do you include ward clerk healthcare worker group in your Bare Below the Elbow audits?
    Regards

    Cate Coffey
    RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing
    Clinical Nurse Manager

    Central Australia Health Service
    Department of Health
    Northern Territory Government

    Infection Prevention and Control Unit
    Alice Springs Hospital
    PO Box 2234, Alice Springs, NT 0871
    cate.coffey@nt.gov.au

    t. 08 8951 7737
    http://www.health.nt.gov.au

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    #78318
    Glenys Harrington
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    Hi All,

    Let’s not get too carried away with policies/guidelines that recommend “bare
    to the elbows” as the premise that bare forearms will increase the rate and
    effectiveness of hand washing is yet to be proved.

    See comments/extracts at links below:

    In order to reach firm conclusions about the effectiveness of the BBE
    policy, it is therefore essential that any clinical results are interpreted
    in the context of the current literature and that bias and confounding are
    minimised during study design.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3293336/

    The potential impact of hand hygiene on comparative bioburden between
    sleeved and BBE HCWs remains unknown and is the focus of future
    investigations.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3293263/

    Bare below the elbows’ attire is not related to the degree of contamination
    on doctors’ fingertips or the presence of clinically significant pathogens.
    Further studies are required to establish whether investment in doctors’
    uniforms and patient education campaigns are worthwhile.

    https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(09)00557-X/ful
    ltext

    This thread also begs the question why such audits would be being planned
    and undertaken during a surge in the COVID-19 Pandemic?

    Given the lack of evidence, this is a poor use of limited infection control
    resources.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

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    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    P.O. Box 6385

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    Barton

    Yes! All staff that go onto the wards. How can they do proper hand hygiene
    otherwise?

    Kind regards,

    Kelly

    I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live,
    and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to
    Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

    Kelly Barton

    Infection Prevention & Control Officer

    RN BHSc (Nursing). Grad Cert (Infection Control)(Advanced Acute Care). Nurse
    Immuniser. Cert IV T&A

    kelly.barton@alpinehealth.org.au

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    > On Behalf Of Cate Coffey

    HI there

    Do you include ward clerk healthcare worker group in your Bare Below the
    Elbow audits?

    Regards

    Cate Coffey

    RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing

    Clinical Nurse Manager

    Central Australia Health Service

    Department of Health

    Northern Territory Government

    Infection Prevention and Control Unit

    Alice Springs Hospital
    PO Box 2234, Alice Springs, NT 0871

    cate.coffey@nt.gov.au

    t. 08 8951 7737

    http://www.health.nt.gov.au

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    #78324
    robertsh@sath.org.au
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    Hi,

    Yes I do as our wad clerks deliver the patients to there rooms and have dealing with patients.

    Regards
    Helen

    Helen Roberts
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    Yes! All staff that go onto the wards. How can they do proper hand hygiene otherwise?

    Kind regards,
    Kelly
    I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present. [cid:image004.png@01D3E2D8.4A07E100]

    [cid:image001.png@01D3593E.B14EC410]

    Kelly Barton
    Infection Prevention & Control Officer
    RN BHSc (Nursing). Grad Cert (Infection Control)(Advanced Acute Care). Nurse Immuniser. Cert IV T&A
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    HI there
    Do you include ward clerk healthcare worker group in your Bare Below the Elbow audits?
    Regards

    Cate Coffey
    RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing
    Clinical Nurse Manager

    Central Australia Health Service
    Department of Health
    Northern Territory Government

    Infection Prevention and Control Unit
    Alice Springs Hospital
    PO Box 2234, Alice Springs, NT 0871
    cate.coffey@nt.gov.au

    t. 08 8951 7737
    http://www.health.nt.gov.au

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