Re: IPC lead role requirements

20/04/2021 at 5:05 pm #77933

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Dear All,
I’m reading the development of the conversation about who could take an
IPC role with interest.
If other health professionals can take over the role of the RN IPC
person, let’s have
an RN running the Haematology department or the Microbiology department.
After all, if skill mix is so transferable, why not allow RN’s to run
pathology departments.
The departments are all automated these days and I’ve heard many
pathology staff
complain it’s so boring pushing a calibration button or an analyse
button and just
waiting for the results to print off. And while we’re at it, RN’s can
take over the role
of podiatrists too. RN’s study anatomy, do a basic surgery rotation,
know well how to
set up and use small instrument trays, so couldn’t someones’ example of
a Podiatrist being an
excellent IPC appointee be argued toward an RN being an excellent
Podiatrist.
The answer is no, the skills are not transferable across health
professional roles.

I know the difference. I trained as an RN, specialised in Intensive
care, then went and studied
my Clinical Laboratory Science degree in the medical sciences and as
both an RN and
Laboratory Scientist, I can say a laboratory scientist is not a suitable
appointee as an
IPC person in a hospial with a role across patient care planning, acuity
understanding,
family interaction, advising on antibiotic stewardship wrt past Hx,
current treatment and
changes of care. The statement already given that IPC positions need to
be opened up to
other health professionals because it cuts out other health care
professionals’ career options
is superficial and invalid when considering the different Allied Health
Care preparation and
skill mix. Wanting to fill a vacant position by changing the role
requirement to open it up
to other allied health persons is not a professional nor safe course of
action.
The conversation promoting the ACIPC to ‘get behind’ the push for
non-RN’s
to be appointed to ICP roles is a huge red flag and I’d think the
Medical Insurance companies,
the ANF, the State nursing unions, all AHPRA registered nurses, RN
members of the ACIPC,
and Nurse Advisors to the Ministers in all States would have a few
things to say about that idea.
I don’t support Allied Health professionals and Laboratory Scientists
taking the ICP lead roles
in Australa health care facilities.

Margaret Goodson
RN(AHPRA), BAppSc(ClinLabSc),MEd,PhD(Ed),GCDRMed(UTS),
Intensive Care Cert(NSWCN), Stomal Therapy Cert (SydH),
CertIVTAE & LLN, MACIPC.
IPC Coordinator
Manly Waters Private Hospital
Manly, Sydney, NSW.

—— Original Message ——

Hi Sarah,
there are many issues in regards to the IPC lead role mandates, however
my experience has been that the federal government is not willing to
listen or change their stance on this matter.

Kind regards,
Kelly
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live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect
to Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

Kelly Barton
Infection Prevention & Control Officer
RN BHSc (Nursing). Grad Cert (Infection Control)(Advanced Acute Care).
Nurse Immuniser. Cert IV T&A

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Sarah Gaines Hill
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 9:49 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] IPC lead role requirements

Thanks Fiona I am aware of this. The issue is nurses in aged care are
few and far between and therefore recruiting and using their time for IP
work is a huge struggle.
There needs to be a change in IP requirements in general to allow
non-nursing to perform the role as well.
Sarah

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Sarah
GainesHill
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> On Behalf Of Wilson, Fiona L (TIPCU)
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 9:44 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] IPC lead role requirements

Hello Sarah the site on the Australian Government website around IPC
leads in RACF does state that the IPC lead must be a nurse.
See
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/infection-prevention-and-control-leads

for the specific requirements.

Regards

Fiona Wilson I Nurse Manager TIPCU
Public Health Services I Department of Health

3/25Argyle St Hobart, GPO Box 125 Hobart 7001
Phone(03) 6166 0601|Mobile 0439 014 634 |Fax(03) 6173 0821
Prevention is better than cure
I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and
live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay
respect to Tasmanian Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

> On Behalf Of Sarah Gaines Hill
Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2021 1:13 PM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] IPC lead role requirements

Good Afternoon fellow Ips!
A few weeks ago there was some discussion in this forum about the
requirements for IPC leads at Aged Care facilities had to be RN/EN.
It was mentioned that there would be recommendations to change this. You
do not need to be an RN/EN to be a great IP. I have worked with many who
had a science degree but not licensed practitioners who were fantastic.
We are really struggling to fill positions that have been left as our
RN/EN pool is very small.
Does anyone remember the discussion or have a response?
Is this something this college would be willing to get behind as a voice
to help aged care facilities with this. I believe this will be an
ongoing struggle if we are tied in this way.

Thanks
Sarah

BlueCross
Sarah
GainesHill
InfectionControlNurseCoordinator
P:+61398281705
|
M:+61429480183
Level1,117CamberwellRoad,
HawthornEast,
VIC
3123
BlueCross

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